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    Leftover Income

    When filing, with a lot of debt, do the courts look at your income/expenses WITHOUT paying those monthly creditors (being filed). If so, could they determine that there's too much left over . . . .

    I don't know if I'm explaining this correctly.

    The bottom line is we are UNable to make ALL of our payments, but, if all of those payments were taken away, we would have money leftover (hopefully, to save for unexpected expenses --i.e.: car repairs, etc. that we wouldn't be able to 'charge')....

    I hope that makes sense

    #2
    That is exactly what they look at. When filing for BK, you allowed certain expenses (basically, your usual living expenses) with some limits on how much. If after deducting all your "living" expenses from your income, and there is an amount left over, several things can happen.

    In a nutshell, if you are below your state's median income, then you are usually good to go for a chapter 7 (there are some exceptions), but if you are above your state's median income and have leftover income after deducting all your living expenses, you will be required to pay back that money to your creditors in a chapter 13 BK.

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      #3
      Originally posted by HHM View Post
      That is exactly what they look at. When filing for BK, you allowed certain expenses (basically, your usual living expenses) with some limits on how much. If after deducting all your "living" expenses from your income, and there is an amount left over, several things can happen.
      HHM is right. Also in addition to your living expenses, the trustee also deducts how much your monthly payments are to secured assets you are allowed to keep every month.

      Making the B22 Means Test calculations *much* simpler than they actually are, basically the calculation is: Monthly income minus secured asset payments minus allowable living expenses = monthly disposable income

      If your monthly disposable income is less than $100, you can likely file Ch 7.
      If your monthly disposable income is between $100-160, you could file either Ch 7 or 13 depending on your individual case situation.
      If your monthly disposable income is more than $160/month, you will be forced to file Ch 13 unless some very specific extenuating circumstances exist.
      Last edited by lrprn; 02-11-2007, 01:39 PM.
      I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

      06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
      06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
      07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
      10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
      01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
      09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
      06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
      08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

      10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
      Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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        #4
        Here's a link to help you with Expenses:

        http://www.ca-bankruptcy-attorneys.c...alculator.html

        If you need to,.......... Quit paying Creditors you intend to discharge in BK and start living a normal "Cash and Carry" existence. That way, you'll get a better handle on how much you really do spend for your actual living expenses.
        Filed Ch 7 - 09/06
        Discharged - 12/2006
        Officially Declared No Asset - 03/2007
        Closed - 04/2007

        I am not an attorney. My comments are based on personal experience and research. Always consult an attorney in your area to address concerns related to your particular situation.

        Another good thing about being poor is that when you are seventy your children will not have declared you legally insane in order to gain control of your estate. - Woody Allen...

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