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    Making a good living, but still feeling strapped

    Consumers are feeling worse about their personal finances and prospects - far worse than government statistics about the economy would indicate.

    Last Updated: May 28, 2008: 8:33 AM EDT

    The Burris family consider themselves middle class, yet are feeling pinched by high food and fuel costs.

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Only a few years ago, Americans who considered themselves middle class were scrimping to pay for their kids' college education.

    Now, many of them are struggling to cover far more basic needs - gas and groceries.

    Take Stacy and Chuck Burris. The Pittsburgh, Pa., couple view themselves as solidly middle class. In recent months, however, they've felt anything but.

    Burdened by high cost of food and fuel, they are having trouble balancing their budget even though Chuck Burris earns a "comfortable salary" as a software engineer. The parents of five children, three of whom are grown, have essentially stopped eating out and entertaining and are considering canceling the annual family vacation to Maine. They keep to a Spartan shopping list and have planted a larger garden. Instead of buying their 12-year-old daughter summer clothes, they are turning her pants into shorts by cutting off the legs and getting hand-me-downs from family.

    Never before in previous recessions have they had to cut back like this.

    "We are struggling to stay in the same place," said Stacy Burris, 47. "You don't mind pinching pennies to send your kids to college. You do mind pinching pennies when it's simply to buy some eggs."

    Many others nationwide are feeling similarly strapped. Recent consumer sentiment studies and polls show that Americans feel worse about their financial situations and the economy than they have in decades, even as economists debate just where things stands. And people don't expect things to improve anytime soon.

    "Consumers are very financially stressed, more than what's indicated by the job and income statistics," said Scott Hoyt, senior director of consumer economics at Moody's Economy.com.

    Personal finances worsening

    High fuel and food costs, coupled with miniscule raises and shrinking home values, led more people to report that their personal finances have worsened than at any time since 1982, according to a recent consumer survey by Reuters and the University of Michigan.

    The future looks grim to them, too. Just one in five households surveyed expect their finances to improve during the next year, the least favorable in half a century. Three-quarters of those surveyed said they expected the nation's economic troubles to continue over the next year, the highest level since 1980. They predict the unemployment rate will jump by one percentage point to 6.0% by year end.

    A survey from the Conference Board released Tuesday found that only 13.4% of respondents said they expect their incomes to rise in the next six months, the lowest level since the study began 41 years ago. Their inflation expectation has hit an all-time high.

    Consumers' perceptions matter. Their dour view is prompting many to rein in spending and avoid incurring additional debt, with the fewest people planning to buy furniture, appliances and home electronics since the early 1980s, the Michigan survey found. The percent planning to take a vacation in the next six months also hit a record low, according to another recent Conference Board report.

    "Consumers are the ones in trouble here," said Paul Ashworth, senior U.S. economist with consulting firm Capital Economics.

    Looking at government statistics, however, things don't look that dire, which is one reason why economists are dickering over whether the country is in a recession. Unemployment is at a relatively low 5% and inflation is running at a modest 3.9%. The economy expanded at an estimated 0.6% in the first quarter, weak but still in growth territory.

    Most experts are predicting more bad times ahead, but there's still no consensus on whether the economy is facing recession. Federal Reserve officials lowered their expectations for growth, but still kept it in positive territory, according to minutes released last week from a recent board meeting. Moreover, many economists say that if there is a recession, it will be mild and short.

    Consumers, on the other hand, don't feel that way. Many are being pummeled by plummeting home values, a weak stock market and soaring grocery and gas costs.

    Feeling the pain at all income levels

    Hoyt of Economy.com argues that every income strata is feeling it. The wealthy are hurting from the roiling stock market, the middle class from falling home prices and working folks from rising prices.

    Food prices, for instance, climbed 5.1% over the past 12 months and April's 0.9% rise was the largest in 18 years, according to the Consumer Price Index. Gas, meanwhile, hit its highest recorded price of $3.937 on Monday, up nearly 21% from a year ago and 9.7% over the past month, according to AAA.

    Meanwhile, Americans aren't feeling flush. Home values have plummeted more than 14% in the past year, according to the S&P Case/Shiller Home Price Index, which tracks 20 of the largest markets. That's the sharpest rate in two decades. And wages are basically stagnant, rising only 0.6% between the first quarter of 2000 and the same period this year on an inflation-adjusted basis. Wages have actually fallen behind inflation for the past seven months, according to Jared Bernstein, senior economist at the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal leaning think tank.

    "Folks are having considerable difficulty making their personal family budgets given their pay and prices," said Bernstein, who recently wrote Crunch: Why Do I Feel So Squeezed? "The prices they face most commonly in day-to-day life are rising faster than both inflation and their paychecks."

    Their investment portfolios aren't doing well, either. The Standard & Poor's 500 index is down nearly 9% over the past year. And the value of Americans' stock and mutual fund holdings fell by $186 billion in the first quarter, the first drop since 2003's bear market.

    All this financial stress comes at a time when most Americans have the thinnest savings cushion to fall back on. They have been loading up on debt in recent years, drawing on the equity in their homes, in particular. The percentage of their disposable income that goes toward debt payments is at 14.3%, near the all-time high.

    "Consumers need to get their financial house in order," Hoyt said.

    Uncertainty hard to deal with

    Weighing even more heavily on consumers is uncertainty about where the economy is headed, said Ken Goldstein, economist with The Conference Board. It's unusual to have such slow growth for so many months and Americans don't know how to respond.

    "What's really pushing consumers into a funk is the fear of what's coming next," Goldstein said. "You can't be sure you know exactly where we are or where we're going. Consumers are afraid that the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train."

    That's exactly how Chris Ackerman feels. He said that he and his wife, who live just outside Seattle, find that their paychecks no longer cover their rent, student loans and daily living expenses. That is forcing the young couple to turn to their credit cards to make ends meet.

    They've already cut out much of their entertainment and trips to visit her family and friends 30 miles away. If gas and grocery prices continue to rise, Ackerman, who works for an importer, said he'll have to stop contributing to his 401(k) plan. He doesn't see many other options.

    "The worst part is looking to the future," said Ackerman, 25. "What if everything keeps getting worse. That's the scariest part. Is my grocery bill going to double again? What will we do?"

    First Published: May 28, 2008: 4:03 AM EDT
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    #2
    That's exactly how Chris Ackerman feels. He said that he and his wife, who live just outside Seattle, find that their paychecks no longer cover their rent, student loans and daily living expenses. That is forcing the young couple to turn to their credit cards to make ends meet.

    They've already cut out much of their entertainment and trips to visit her family and friends 30 miles away. If gas and grocery prices continue to rise, Ackerman, who works for an importer, said he'll have to stop contributing to his 401(k) plan. He doesn't see many other options.

    "The worst part is looking to the future," said Ackerman, 25. "What if everything keeps getting worse. That's the scariest part. Is my grocery bill going to double again? What will we do?"

    That's what got us into this mess, along with the always present unexpected costs that arise. It's such a shame and I think that bankruptcy numbers will be up a lot in the future.
    Last edited by HRx; 05-29-2008, 09:31 AM.
    Filed Chapter 13 05/23/08
    Converted to Chapter 7 Jan 2012
    Discharged April 2012

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      #3
      My thoughts.............

      Folks that are multi-millionaires and billionaires are not too concerned about the price of a gallon of gas, or the price of a gallon of milk. Many of our government officials fall in this category. Too most of them, everything is a tax write-off anyways. THEY ARE NOT FEELING THE PINCH!! It doesn't affect their lifestyle much....

      Middle-class and below are not changing their buying and spending habits much from what I have observed.

      They still jump in that big V-8 car and run buy a pack a cigs 10 mile away.
      Still spend $50+ a week eating just lunch out.
      Still paying for haircuts at $75.00+ a cut. And all they need is a trim!
      Still paying $125.00 for a pair of shoes for a baby that can't walk yet, just because they are "cute".
      Still buying new cars instead of good used ones.
      Still borrowing money to take that expensive vacation.
      Still buying the newest in electronics, "gotta have it"....
      Still telling their kids - Yeah, you can have it!

      And they wonder where their money goes, and why they can't meet basic bills to survive.

      A lot put their "must haves and luxuries" before basic needs!! Thus out come the credit cards to try to make ends meet.

      Few, if any "even consider" working a parttime job to keep their heads above water till the economy settles down.

      People have to make "changes" in their lives and lifestyle till the economy changes. Otherwise, they risk loosing everything they have worked so hard for.

      Tightening the belt, shopping wisely, keeping that big SUV parked a lot, and cutting out the "must haves" can make a big difference in your survival during all these economic changes.

      But the sad part is many folks are not willing to make the changes, and hit those credit cards to survive.

      $90.00 jeans are not a necessity, trips to the nail salon is not exactly a basic need.

      Where there is a "will" there is a "way" usually. But it takes a lot of effort and doing without temporarily.

      Which category do you fit in??
      Minny

      "It's amazing the paths that our feet sometimes follow in life".

      My suggestions are from "personal experience" and research only. Do not consider this as legal advice. Each bankruptcy case is different.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Minnymouth View Post
        My thoughts.............



        Which category do you fit in??

        LOL! I love it, Minnymouth, when you post those kinds of things!

        I dont fit in any of the above. I had not bought myself a new winter coat in over 15 years. So I went out in January & charged one, then I liked it so much I charged a second one because I knew I would be wearing them for the next 15 years.

        I guess that is just a different category that they have no idea exists.

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          #5
          lol, you buy coats like i buy coats and shoe.............SELDOM..........

          LIKE, how many pairs of shoes and coats do you need??

          I can only wear one pair at a time and one coat.............

          I don't have to have one in each color................but some folks do............
          Minny

          "It's amazing the paths that our feet sometimes follow in life".

          My suggestions are from "personal experience" and research only. Do not consider this as legal advice. Each bankruptcy case is different.

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            #6
            Folks that are multi-millionaires and billionaires are not too concerned about the price of a gallon of gas, or the price of a gallon of milk. Many of our government officials fall in this category. ... THEY ARE NOT FEELING THE PINCH!! It doesn't affect their lifestyle much....
            Which is why inflation is not going to get better any time soon. People who can afford any price per gallon or any price for food won't change -- which keeps demand up, and most people who can't afford them pay with credit rather than making a sacrifice -- creating 'artificial' demand.

            On the bright side, there is still that minority that has very little cash and no credit cards, along with the few that take borrowing seriously, that are bringing demand down slightly... but unless credit cards were suddenly not accepted at the pump or the grocery store, a sharp downturn in demand wouldn't happen (and if they weren't, many families wouldn't eat)
            Filed Joint, No Asset, > $100,000 Unsecured Ch.7 6/7/13 ~~ 341 Meeting 7/15/13 ~~ Discharged 9/16/13 !!

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              #7
              I agree that many people use credit and don't limit how much they spend.

              But I will say that we make what is called a middle class salary, and we are feeling the pinch.

              I used to spend on average $65/wk at the grocery store and that is buying store brand or on sale. Now I'm spending $85 on the same stuff.

              It used to cost me $25-$30 to fill up my car. I now pay $45+ depending.

              Even if I shop at the consignment stores for clothes for my daughter, they cost as much as buying new at Target/WalMart for her.

              I don't buy expensive clothes for myself or my husband. In fact, when I spend more than $20-$30 on a pair of jeans, I cringe. Nor do we have excessive amounts of inexpensive clothes.

              My daughter doesn't get everything she asks for nor do I

              But we are definitely feeling the rising costs of living. I have money allocated to savings every month but I worry that it won't be enough to keep up with life's expenses.

              I don't ever want us to end up in the same mess we were in before by living beyond our means and my husband continues to make good money in stable job market with regular decent raises. But the future is somewhat scary if the cost of living continues to jump as it has in the last couple of years.
              Filed CH 7...12/27/2007
              341.............2/5/2008
              60 days.......4/5/2008
              Discharged...5/12/2008 Closed.........6/4/2008

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                #8
                I also blame a lot of our economic problems on our government.

                Uncle Sam wants "world trade" among the Nations. But at what expense?
                More and more US companies are out-sourcing overseas. From auto makers to data entry firms. Then shipping their merchandise back to the US for us to buy. Who looses, WE DO....

                Their objective of going overseas-
                1. "higher profits" -
                2. "cheap wages paid out"!!
                3. Union free....
                4. Lower taxes and good tax incentivies
                5. No benefits paid out

                I feel that ANY US COMPANY that shuts down in the USA to go overseas and ship their merchandise back should be penalized.
                1. They should not be allowed to ship back merchandise to the US.
                2. Their tariffs should be extremely high if they do ship back to the US

                THEIR ACTION of moving overseas to benefit themselves cause drastic changes in our economy.
                1. They put hundreds/thousands out of jobs at one sweep.
                2. Decreases our job markets and training programs
                3. Increases our use of unemployment, food stamps, health care systems
                4. Causes families to file bankruptcy, have foreclosures, etc loosing everything they have.

                Companies that start here in the USA, are built by the "workforce" here in the USA...... US workers are "what made these companies BIG"..... made them profitable, made them nationwide.... off the backs of the little man each day!!

                If they leave the USA, then stay out of the USA..... permanently!!

                Our United States "use to be" pretty self supportive. Not any longer...our fuels come from other nations, our food from other nations, our clothing from other nations, our tools and daily merchandise from other nations. Even many of the medicines we put down our throats is not manufactured in the US. (how dangerous is that??) And just how many American Doctors have you seen lately???? And they talk "Homeland Security"!!!!!

                Just "actually.... WHAT DO WE PRODUCE ANYMORE???? Not much of anything.... movies????

                Not only is our economy changing, our national language is showing a wide spread change. Spanish IS NOT our language!!!! If you come here, LEARN ENGLISH.............

                AND, since WHEN is it NOT APPROPRIATE to fly our National Flag in front of our schools, homes, etc??? Because some other Nation might be offended???

                Since when did preachers start preaching about "politics" instead of the "gospel"?????????

                I see many changes going on, many I do not like what I see. It has nothing to do with race, nor religion.

                Our Nation is falling apart from the "inside out"...... and our governmental officials are letting it and helping it.

                The price we will pay as citizens will be high with this path we are now traveling.

                I hate to think what the future holds for the next generation......

                Just my thoughts today...............
                Minny

                "It's amazing the paths that our feet sometimes follow in life".

                My suggestions are from "personal experience" and research only. Do not consider this as legal advice. Each bankruptcy case is different.

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                  #9
                  I don't drive my V8 SUV as much as I used. That is mostly because we moved closer to where everything is and I can walk or bike.

                  I still pay 600-700 mth on groceries, for a family of 4.

                  I don't get my nails done, never have.

                  Clothes for teenagers are expensive, no matter where you buy them. Especially if you have a growing teenage boy.

                  Fees at school are still there.

                  I don't eat out as much now.

                  Gas is still 4.39 for DH truck and 4.59 for my SUV.

                  I am glad DH has a stable job and we don't have to worry about him losing his job, unless something tragic happens.

                  I have several millionaire friends and they are still doing their thing. Many weren't big spenders anyway.

                  This to will past.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Minnymouth View Post
                    Just "actually.... WHAT DO WE PRODUCE ANYMORE???? Not much of anything.... movies???? ...............
                    I am in agreement with your entire post, as usual. I had a horrible thought a couple of weeks ago, that americans would end up working for chinese companies, arab owned companies, korean based & india based. The entire things is going to turn around & they will be employing americans, bringing there low paying jobs to the US, instead of the other way around.

                    This is the way of the roman empire so the elite can have their castles with moats & no threat of anyone else getting somewhere. It was not like this in the 70's & 80's in the states, though looking back I can see that it all kind of started during those times.

                    Did you ever have chinese pizza? or have you tried indian spaghetti? it is assembled in the USA, but the parts come from 20 different countries

                    Your part about the movies is the same exact thing I always think about. The only thing we still make are movies (jesting of course, but not that far off base either). While california may bring in 1/3 of the nations wealth, can everyone become a movie star?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bandit View Post
                      Your part about the movies is the same exact thing I always think about. The only thing we still make are movies (jesting of course, but not that far off base either). While california may bring in 1/3 of the nations wealth, can everyone become a movie star?
                      Actually a huge number of movies are made in Canada (by Hollywood studios), or at least they were being made there when the Canadian dollar was weak. Between 1996 and 2006, over 1,500 film and television productions were outsourced to Canada. Maybe now that the Canadian dollar is strong, that will change, but it might not since Canada offers other huge money incentives to get studios to film there. Here's a good article from 2006 about it: http://www.slate.com//id/2136064/
                      Ch. 7 BK Filed 12/30/2008, Discharged 3/30/2009

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Minnymouth
                        I also blame a lot of our economic problems on our government.

                        Uncle Sam wants "world trade" among the Nations. But at what expense?
                        More and more US companies are out-sourcing overseas. From auto makers to data entry firms. Then shipping their merchandise back to the US for us to buy. Who looses, WE DO....
                        If anything, we're all just as much to blame as well. I'm not letting our government off the hook, but we need to shoulder the blame as well. Everybody wants cheaper things. I mean, think about it. If you were in the market for a DVD player, would you spend $100 on one knowing it was made 100% with all USA parts and labor, or would you buy the $30 one, not knowing if it came from Taiwan or China?


                        Originally posted by Minnymouth
                        Not only is our economy changing, our national language is showing a wide spread change. Spanish IS NOT our language!!!! If you come here, LEARN ENGLISH.............
                        Get used to it Minny. I was watching the news a while back, and in 50 years, Hispanics will be the new majority in this country. Maybe we should start brushing up on our Spanish.
                        Filed Ch 7: 12/27/07
                        341: 2/6/08
                        Discharged: 4/11/08
                        Finally closing: ???

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                          #13
                          I saw on TV yesterday where Ford is closing plants in America and opening new ones in Mexico. Then they will ship the vehicles back to America. Cheap labor.

                          This move is so not cool and I have 2 Ford made vehicles(Lincoln's).
                          Last edited by Cali; 05-31-2008, 10:27 AM.

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                            #14
                            The government (shepherds) have led us down a bad path . They have been fiscally irresponsible for a generation. They have taught the people to be irresponsible. I was as guilty as everyone else.

                            Anyone see that Fox special last night about earmarks, how senators and congressmen from both the Republican and Democrat parties are profiting from their earmarks to the tune of millions of dollars? It was hosted by Chris Wallace.
                            May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
                            July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
                            September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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                              #15
                              I have a 60 mile one way commute to work each business day unless I am off or can work from home several days a month. I have a good mileage car (36 mpg) and I work in a different state that in which I reside (don't advise me to change jobs - I could not get a job in this area for what I make on this one plus I have been working there for 6 years, have great perks, excellent boss and coworkers). Plus the job section in the paper is so slim. Seems ilke a good profession now is being an exotic dancer - lots of listings for them, also probably due to the economy. We have cut down on any unnecessary expenditures due to the rise in gas costs; in groceries, going out anywhere, etc. My husband also commutes to his job about 30 miles one way so we have to compensate somewhere. Duiring my commute, I see more SUV's on the road than anything else and these drivers speed and swerve like they have a stuffed wallet. I don['t believe anyone takes this economy really seriously unlil they lose a job and realize what is going on. Being through a BK before and a job loss (hubby) due to a change in economy and job markets in 2001, we are prepared and see the signs coming that one of us could get cut, him moreso than me since he is in retail. Our world, as Minny stated, is "I want it now and cannot wait." And when it is obtained, something else is coveted immediately. What's gonna happen when the fossil fuel runs out? The world for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren will be bleak and I and others forsee for the future a home that will contain multiple family units (parents, children, grandparents and possibly great-grandparents) all living together to save fuel and food costs. There are too many large McMansions that have been built within the past 20 years that will cost a fortune to heat/cool; same with the gas guzzlers on the road. Someething will have to give and humans will have to evolve accordingly to survive on a smaller income due to all the people in the world now and the competition for the higher paying jobs. It's coming - it's only a matter of time. My mother and father, both deceased but who both lived through the depression as teenagers and young-adults, always warned me of what can happen with too much indulgence - you can lose everything in the blink of an eye if you are not prepared.
                              _________________________________________
                              Filed 5 Year Chapter 13: April 2002
                              Early Buy-Out: April 2006
                              Discharge: August 2006

                              "A credit card is a snake in your pocket"

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