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Another problem is the lenders that approve you will be monitoring your credit and when they see all the inquiries and increase in credit lines they will very likely reduce your credit limit or cancel your card.
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Couple things to keep in mind, true the hard inquiries will fall off in a couple years. the approvals you do get, more than likely, will be because they know you cannot file BK again for X years. Now for the score hit, I would say, at a minimum, it will probably drop 25 points or so. Alot of these cards don 't pull from all three, but use just one or two so it will vary across all three.
just fyi
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why oh why oh why! I'm curious too why you are so hell bent on getting a HELOC. I know that you said before in a post that you want to purchase a new home and use it for the downpayment and then when you are in the new home sell but applying for and getting denied for probably most of these cards isn't going to look good. I can tell you right now Target will deny you. They cancelled my car not a week after I filed Chapter 7 and I had a zero balance at the time and paid in full for 5 years before that. Sears is also a very difficult card to get. Wouldn't it have been smarter to maybe post that list and get a bit of advice on who might outright deny you before you went on your app-a-rama spree? 5 years out of chapter 7 I even had a hard time getting a card from Tires Plus and I needed like $2,500 worth of work done on my car at the time too. I guess I'm not understanding why you would apply for so many at once and not space this out a bit while using the ones you got approved for each month. Am I missing something here?
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Just an FYI that you have a lot of cards with duplicate issuing banks (noted in red - I had insomnia so I Googled - not 100% sure but did the best I could to make sure the info is accurate) so I am interested to see how this plays out.Originally posted by JackBondLove View PostI chose just about any merchant that I thought I might have a chance of buying something from.
Here's the list:
APPLIED, BUT HAVE NOT RECEIVED DECISION YET
Amazon Chase and GE Capital Retail Bank
Shell CITIBANK
Exxon GE MoneyBank
Chevron & Texaco GE Capital Retail Bank
Home Depot CITIBANK
Lowes GE Capital Retail Bank
LL Bean BARCLAYS
US Bank
Eddie Bauer World Financial Network National Bank
Goodyear CITIBANK
J Crew World Financial Network Bank
Kohl's Capital One
Macy*s Department Stores National Bank
National Ski Patrol Partners First
OfficeMax U.S. Bank National Association
Conoco CITIBANK
PNC
RadioShack CITIBANK
Sears CITIBANK or HBSC if it is a 'Sears Solution' Card
Staples CITIBANK
US Bank
STILL NEED TO APPLY VIA THE PHONE B/C OF TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES ON WEBSITE
JC Penney Monogram Credit Card Bank of Georgia
Superfleet Speedway SuperAmerica LLC
NEED TO APPLY VIA MAIL:
Target Target National Bank
CREDIT CARDS APPROVED:
Discover
Firestone
CREDIT CARDS REJECTED:
Best Buy - HAD BEEN OFFERED A CARD WITH ANNUAL FEE, BUT TURNED IT DOWN
Paypal
DID NOT APPLY FOR B/C OF BK: (I.E., THERE WAS SOMETHING ON THE APPLICATION THAT ASKED IF I HAD FILED FOR BK, WHICH I PRESUMED MEANT A BIG NO!)
BP
Chase Freedom
Banana Republic
PNC
Good luck!
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Hey Jack
As I re-read this... the soonest you can apply for HELOC is 2.1.2014.... that is in a "perfect" world where 28 inquires are removed.
I just don't understand your thinking... can you explain this to me (like I'm a 5-year old).
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Originally posted by JackBondLove View PostI chose just about any merchant that I thought I might have a chance of buying something from.
Here's the list:
APPLIED, BUT HAVE NOT RECEIVED DECISION YET
Amazon
Shell
Exxon
Chevron & Texaco
Home Depot
Lowes
LL Bean
US Bank
Eddie Bauer
Goodyear
J Crew
Kohl's
Macy*s
National Ski Patrol
OfficeMax
Conoco
PNC
RadioShack
Sears
Staples
US Bank
STILL NEED TO APPLY VIA THE PHONE B/C OF TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES ON WEBSITE
JC Penney
Superfleet
NEED TO APPLY VIA MAIL:
Target
CREDIT CARDS APPROVED:
Discover
Firestone
CREDIT CARDS REJECTED:
Best Buy - HAD BEEN OFFERED A CARD WITH ANNUAL FEE, BUT TURNED IT DOWN
Paypal
DID NOT APPLY FOR B/C OF BK: (I.E., THERE WAS SOMETHING ON THE APPLICATION THAT ASKED IF I HAD FILED FOR BK, WHICH I PRESUMED MEANT A BIG NO!)
BP
Chase Freedom
Banana Republic
PNC
Wow - I am speechless.. I am without speech...
28 applied.... 32 concerned. That is a lot of f'ing cards (excuse my typing)
Logan asked why? So do I...
Personal I believe you pick the worst "season" to shop and/or attempt - hello Christmas...
I wish you the best of luck, but IMHO this is not going to help you; don't be surprised that you are missing the seat of your pants when you need them the most.
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Gasp! You applied for 25 credit cards at one time???
Perhaps you were turned down for some/have to wait for some because they think it is fraudulent activity?
Once when I had good credit, I applied for 3 credit cards in one month, was approved by all three, and my score plummetted 70 points and never recovered.
By the way, I have never heard of a "National Ski Patrol" card
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Yes, I was approved for Discover CC.Originally posted by Logan View PostAnd you were approved for Discover with a BK on your record? They are very anti BK.
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And you were approved for Discover with a BK on your record? They are very anti BK.
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Why are you so fixated on a HELOC?
And you're going about this the wrong way. Too late now.
Good luck.
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I chose just about any merchant that I thought I might have a chance of buying something from.Originally posted by DesdemonaB View PostWow - 25 - when all the replies come in I would love to hear what the approval ratio turns out to be.
And may I ask were any department/retail stores?
Here's the list:
APPLIED, BUT HAVE NOT RECEIVED DECISION YET
Amazon
Shell
Exxon
Chevron & Texaco
Home Depot
Lowes
LL Bean
US Bank
Eddie Bauer
Goodyear
J Crew
Kohl's
Macy*s
National Ski Patrol
OfficeMax
Conoco
PNC
RadioShack
Sears
Staples
US Bank
STILL NEED TO APPLY VIA THE PHONE B/C OF TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES ON WEBSITE
JC Penney
Superfleet
NEED TO APPLY VIA MAIL:
Target
CREDIT CARDS APPROVED:
Discover
Firestone
CREDIT CARDS REJECTED:
Best Buy - HAD BEEN OFFERED A CARD WITH ANNUAL FEE, BUT TURNED IT DOWN
Paypal
DID NOT APPLY FOR B/C OF BK: (I.E., THERE WAS SOMETHING ON THE APPLICATION THAT ASKED IF I HAD FILED FOR BK, WHICH I PRESUMED MEANT A BIG NO!)
BP
Chase Freedom
Banana Republic
PNCLast edited by JackBondLove; 12-20-2011, 08:13 PM.
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Wow - 25 - when all the replies come in I would love to hear what the approval ratio turns out to be.
And may I ask were any department/retail stores?
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Well, I don't plan to be looking for credit for at least a year, and more likely 2 years. By then, the hard credit pulls will have fallen off.
Before BK, I used to be a passive stoozer (i.e., only apply for CC's when they were actively advertized to me), and most folks would do the app-o-rama to stooze. But since the CC's now impose harsh fees on balance transfers, stoozing is not really lucrative at all.
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App-o-rama causes 40 points to be taken off your score. Okay, that was a guess, but frequent shopping for credit cards is not the same thing as shopping for a car or home loan. There are actually models that look for this behavior so once you get to some number -- let's just say 10 in a week -- a "flag" is created in the model for too many requests for credit within a short period of time. Again, the model is okay when this is auto or home loan "shopping" but not for revolving credit.
Interesting that Discover likes you. They are one of the tougher ones. It could also be which bureau each is hitting as well.
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be careful!!! app-o-rama. i dunno what we are going to do with you! LOL!!
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