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    #16
    Originally posted by professorkev View Post
    Well Paypal apparently refund money to the guy and now keeps my PP account in the negative; so appraently I owe PP the negative balance. I can't very well deposit the money. I'll have to call the attorney on that one.
    Like I said, if selling on Ebay is important enough to you to justify paying $175, then do it. If not--and I suspect that continuing to use Ebay is NOT worth $175 to you--then don't pay. The debt will be discharged in bankruptcy. Just make sure to add Ebay and Paypal as creditors to your Schedule F and mailing matrix.

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      #17
      no its not important enough, I only sell thing like tou do for a garage sale. are things you sell considered income? I sold a lens for $1000 back in November.

      Also, we have a CPA who completed our taxes last week and I told the attorney that they were done. I just emailed CPA to sen over the Efile signature page so we can get the taxes filed by Tuesday by noon.

      QUESTION: do actual taxes need to be filed, or just filed before the 341 meeting? (a bit worried the CPA won't move fast enough) Attorney said this BK needs to be done Tuesday to avoid that MSJ court date on Tuesday)

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        #18
        [QUOTE=professorkev;599579QUESTION: do actual taxes need to be filed, or just filed before the 341 meeting? (a bit worried the CPA won't move fast enough) Attorney said this BK needs to be done Tuesday to avoid that MSJ court date on Tuesday)[/QUOTE]

        If you have not properly filed your Income Tax Return, whether Federal /and or state, you need to do so. Keep yourself as honest and transparent as possible. To do otherwise may hurt you in the long run.

        See my earlier post about filing an Emergency Petition.
        "To go bravely forward is to invite a miracle."

        "Worry is the darkroom where negatives are formed."

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          #19
          FILED!!!!!!!

          Well it's over and I don't feel any different. I will feel better when I get that discharge paper in August I hope.

          Spent 3.5 hours in the Attorneys office. Spent one hour with attorney himself; he's really a good guy. due to most of my debt occurring because of "business" a side thing I side thing while unemployed at home. he stated this was the easiest method to go and more favorable. If I filed otherwise there may be issues with the means test; which we passed but questions could be raised. (I'm declaring single, not with my wife as it is all my debt)

          He stated it may be looked at more closely with the US Trustees office as opposed with the trustee himself. So I should be prepared to present info upon request. He also mentioned the trustee office here are good people to work with who don't bust your balls.

          also state did would lose my half of the tax refund I have coming in the next week or two and that I should not spend it. I thought you could spend it down on essentials? either way I won't.

          So now what??

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            #20
            Once you've filed, the refund is property of the bk estate. Does not matter if you've received or not.

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              #21
              Originally posted by professorkev View Post
              also state did would lose my half of the tax refund I have coming in the next week or two and that I should not spend it. I thought you could spend it down on essentials? either way I won't.
              Ouch. By any chance did you have enough exemptions to cover the tax refund? Is it listed? It is too late to spend it down, it's an asset of the estate.
              Filed Joint, No Asset, > $100,000 Unsecured Ch.7 6/7/13 ~~ 341 Meeting 7/15/13 ~~ Discharged 9/16/13 !!

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                #22
                he made n.o mention of exemptions for it, but maybe that was the part where he said we had equity in the house. He also mentioned that it may not be taken depending how the trustee looks at it.

                Also, I included ebay negative balance and it shows in the schedule F as Ebay Mastercard Orlando Fl > does that sound right? I think it might be the wrong address to go to.
                And Paypal shows Paypal Buyer Credit ElPaso Texas ; what up with that?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by professorkev View Post
                  he made n.o mention of exemptions for it, but maybe that was the part where he said we had equity in the house. He also mentioned that it may not be taken depending how the trustee looks at it.
                  That sounds right, provided you have no "wildcard" exemption left over to exempt cash or same-as-cash assets such as a tax refund. The key is that you can't convert non-exempt assets (tax refund) into exempt assets (food, clothes, etc.) at this point. It is also true that the trustee and the creditors he is representing MAY not be interested in the money if it's too insignificant to divide up amongst them.
                  Filed Joint, No Asset, > $100,000 Unsecured Ch.7 6/7/13 ~~ 341 Meeting 7/15/13 ~~ Discharged 9/16/13 !!

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                    #24
                    I would think dividing (1,700?) between 27 creditors may be insignificant.

                    Quick question, Money in checking account (only$200) can that be spent? what happens with direct deposit into checking? The bank is not a creditor and never used other than checking account purposes. Just didn't know if that $200 is a ward of the trustee and any future deposits.

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                      #25
                      Another question; when do the trustees do their due diligence? is it before the meeting or after? I would assume beforehand they just take a quick look through then after the meeting they sift through it all?? just wondering why it takes 60day or if its more of a backlog issue.

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                        #26
                        Technically the $200.00 is part of the BK Estate, but it is probably okay, though our attorney told us to have as close to $0.00 as possible on the day we filed. We were actually a little overdrawn so that was okay. I don't believe that such a small amount will trigger the trustee's interest.

                        The fact that your banking has nothing to do with any of your loans or credit cards, is also good. We had to reaffirm our auto loan and an overdraft protection loan with our credit union, if we wanted to continue doing business with them.

                        If your bank is on your mailing matrix to get notice of your 'Suggestion of Bankruptcy', then depending on their policies, you may need to go and talk with someone there if you want to keep the checking account.
                        Last edited by AngelinaCat; 05-08-2013, 02:36 PM.
                        "To go bravely forward is to invite a miracle."

                        "Worry is the darkroom where negatives are formed."

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                          #27
                          The 60 days is not a matter of a backlog; it is part of the BK code, that gives your creditors ample time to file an objection with the court, against the discharge of their particular debt. If someone decides to wait and file on day 61, they are out of luck. In most instances creditors don't bother.
                          Last edited by AngelinaCat; 05-08-2013, 02:36 PM.
                          "To go bravely forward is to invite a miracle."

                          "Worry is the darkroom where negatives are formed."

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                            #28
                            My bank is BoA. I didn't BK anything with BoA. My checking/debit/savings were not affected. There have been some here with Wells Fargo that reported accounts frozen or closed (can't remember.) It's been advised if you bank with WF - move your money.

                            Who is your bank? Others with the same bank can tell you their experiences.

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                              #29
                              First Niagara, I doubt I need to worry. Wish my attorney told me to keep my balanxce close to zero, damn it. I'm still taking it. :o) refund though I won't touch.

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                                #30
                                The money in your checking account likely needs to be used to live, right? I don't see why you can't spend it. We had over $4k in our accounts when we filed, but exempted it (CA has nice exemptions) so maybe we are in a different boat. Our lawyer never said we couldn't spend the money in our accounts.

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