Chase Calls afte Four Years??

[tobee43]

This is what went through my mind when I read this.

It sounds like they were phishing for information.

I would be very careful about giving them any information over the phone.

exactly, like why in the world would he ask for my phone number when he just called. OR...the address of the property in question. although we have a non listed number and he knew our names, not that it's so difficult to get an unlisted number nowadays.

so far i haven't heard back from them. i will not be holding my breath

[GoingDown]

Sounds fraudulent to me - be careful as someone has your phone number and is looking for information. Did you ask to verify who he was and get a return phone number to call Chase to verify the call? Always do that when something like this occurs.

This is what went through my mind when I read this.

It sounds like they were phishing for information.

I would be very careful about giving them any information over the phone.

[tobee43]

Washington Mutual foreclosed on home June 2009 I have not heard a word from them. I moved out in late 08. I did get a credit notice bill from the city garbadge collection in early 09 that I was responsible for monthly bills due to house being in my name although I did not live there. I went to city and made payments for a few months and one month I walked in to pay and the clerk said all has been cleared that I did not have to pay anymore. I assume that is because the house was sold at sheriffs auction and new tenants resume responsibility? Since the house was sold and I have not heard anything from mortage company as of today , am I clear from them for any monatery backlash?

well, if the house sold it would the new owners not really "tenants"...and that's GREAT news for you since now the deed has transferred ownership!

if listed the mortgage amount on your bankruptcy and it was discharged with the amount on it you should be in the clear with exception of HOA fees and costs which are usually never discharged. however, i'm also a bit surprised about the town, i would have sent them a copy of the bk discharge showing them the house was included. however, i'm not certain exactly how that would have been handled as the house is still or was technically still in your name. other than that, i would think you are done!!!

[hwilli]

Washington Mutual foreclosed on home June 2009 I have not heard a word from them. I moved out in late 08. I did get a credit notice bill from the city garbadge collection in early 09 that I was responsible for monthly bills due to house being in my name although I did not live there. I went to city and made payments for a few months and one month I walked in to pay and the clerk said all has been cleared that I did not have to pay anymore. I assume that is because the house was sold at sheriffs auction and new tenants resume responsibility? Since the house was sold and I have not heard anything from mortage company as of today , am I clear from them for any monatery backlash?

[tobee43]

good info cat. i know i checked the county sheriff's site in the county which our old property is and there have been what seemingly look like a few that went to sheriff's sale, but we aren't even listed on the list....after over 4 years.

thinking now, after the recent threads dealing with deficiencies and their issue for those states that are applicable, just as nj, i know at least chase would not be after me for that as we filed prior to foreclosure and listed the house and the bk was discharged and closed, so chase is SOL. then, one would ask, why in the world would they contact someone knowing that the home has be vacate for over 4 years to ask them what are their plans and has their situation changed??? why would they even care. frankly, as flamingo said, it may have been a fishing call, even so, they had our names and current phone number...after all, we are not hiding (anymore LOL).

i just know the next time i better leave a prepared scrip be the phone so i am ready for them.

[catleg]

All I can really say is, there was a foreclosure moratorium last year that was widely in the news; there are 2 houses in my neighborhood being foreclosed upon, one is just 2 doors down from me, but there has been no progress in either case since 2011 (neither homeowner is contesting the foreclosure, both houses are abandoned, both loans involve MERS and Weichert Financial); and I get the Star Ledger newspaper delivered Sundays and Thursdays and at times in the past there has been pages devoted to foreclosures but lately nothing. So for whatever reason, maybe because the banks are waiting for the state AG's to settle with them on robosigning, nothing seems to be going forward. Wish I had more definitive information, but that is my boots on the ground observation.







Another thought is that in NJ, property tax appeal season runs until April 1st (you have to file by then); they (the powers that be) may want to avoid upsetting people about the decreasing value of their properties until after the deadline has passed. (this is a pretty far out thought, but hey, you never know).

[keepsmiling]

As far as I know NJ is still under foreclosure lockdown, so it could be Chase, an agent for Chase, or a scammer. They're happy to put their own 'force place' insurance on the property, means they make more money when it someday is sold. But again AFAIK NJ is not doing nothing with foreclosures yet.

Cat, could you please clarify what that means? thanks

[tobee43]

cat, good to know. i really don't think they will be calling again any time soon. interesting about the "force place" insurance? is there a reason they are still doing nothing? i know here in florida they just passed something to get them moving along.

[catleg]

As far as I know NJ is still under foreclosure lockdown, so it could be Chase, an agent for Chase, or a scammer. They're happy to put their own 'force place' insurance on the property, means they make more money when it someday is sold. But again AFAIK NJ is not doing nothing with foreclosures yet.

[tobee43]

In our case, the last "foreclosure talk" was in October 2009. We received a letter stating their intent to accelerate and foreclosure would begin in Nov (2009) if we didn't bring the loan current. So.... 2 1/2 years later... nothing and they say "we'll get to it when we get to it" when we call them. We do still receive the monthly statement and every spring we get the "you must purchase insurance or we'll add our insurance to the mortgage" letter from BofA.

we never rec'd any monthly statements at all after we left, not a one. also we were not allowed in the state of nj to purchase insurance unless we lived in the house. we tried. however, chase just put the house under their umbrella policy. now since the mortgage was discharged with our bk, i am really not caring if they really ever foreclose (only because we already purchased this house) but for those looking into the future to get a mortgage, these delays are ridicules in the foreclosure process.

[freeatlast09]

For everybody who has been waiting 2+ years after BK for the house to foreclose, did you ever hear anything from the bank or their lawyers, ie, certified letters, etc or did they just stay silent?

In our case, the last "foreclosure talk" was in October 2009. We received a letter stating their intent to accelerate and foreclosure would begin in Nov (2009) if we didn't bring the loan current. So.... 2 1/2 years later... nothing and they say "we'll get to it when we get to it" when we call them. We do still receive the monthly statement and every spring we get the "you must purchase insurance or we'll add our insurance to the mortgage" letter from BofA.

[tobee43]

Tobee, that is strange. Maybe they'll finally foreclose and end that chapter for you. So that house has been vacant for four years? Who pays utilities, anyone?

For everybody who has been waiting 2+ years after BK for the house to foreclose, did you ever hear anything from the bank or their lawyers, ie, certified letters, etc or did they just stay silent?

i hope so, i really do, but as flamingo and others indicated it may not even have been a "real" call. yes!! the house has been vacate for over 4 years now.

we did notify them when we left. actually we were right in the middle of trying over a year to do a loan mod, when we were served and given 30 days to answer the summons or they said they were foreclosing. since we were jobless, had over 200k worth or medical bills after 30 years we decided as per our atty, just not to answer the summons and vacate if that is what we would like to do, since we couldn't even afford the utilities any longer ,we thought it best to leave.

we shut off all the utilities, cleared the pipes, notified the bank and they had changed the locks within a week or two. they have been maintaining the property from what we have heard, paying the taxes etc.

we tried to do a DIL, we were successful with one on another property we owned, but chase would have no part of it. we have PMI and it was an FHA so it's government backed and i checked with the FHA and they said no claim has ever been filed by chase on that property even though it is a government backed loan. to collect from the FHA they must foreclose first and attempt to get some monies back and then collect on the remainder. but nothing, not a thing. they know where we are, because the first year we did get a 1098 for the taxes and interest we paid that year. they know where to find us.

[Miknan]

Tobee, that is strange. Maybe they'll finally foreclose and end that chapter for you. So that house has been vacant for four years? Who pays utilities, anyone?

For everybody who has been waiting 2+ years after BK for the house to forclose, did you ever hear anything from the bank or their lawyers, ie, certified letters, etc or did they just stay silent?

[tobee43]

These banks make no sense. By refusing to foreclose, it seems they are hurting the economy and themselves even more. I've seen several posts on this forum about people that are 2+ years after discharge and could get another house thus emptying some of the bank owned inventory, but the 3 year foreclosure clock on their old property hasn't even started yet. We're in that very same situation. We've saved 30% for a down payment and the mortgage payment would be less than our rent, but without the foreclosure even starting (let alone being finished) what can we do? If this keeps up much longer we'll probably just save for a few more years and pay cash.

i so hear you! that's why we went the owner finance route (OK hhm i know many can't do that!) however, it worked for us. we by passed the banks completely and had a rather large down payment...i WILL pay off this mortgage within the next 36 months i swear.

and yes, karm, it is freaky!!!!...and scary LOL! just a bit. however, i'm not scare of the boogyman at all, or for that matter the monster under the bed, too bad for them LOL!!!

[karm43]

Thats Freaky