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    Sorry if this has been asked before, but can any one recommend a pre-bankruptcy counseling service for the certificate.We are almost done with the paperwork needed to file 13, except for the certificate......

    To be honest, I would like the easiest, quickest, pay over the internet, "we'll send you your certificate by e-mail" service.

    I don't mean to trivialize the seriousness of a bankruptcy, but these prefiling sessions seem like closing the gate after the beast escaped.
    Seems that a post-filing lecture would be more in order.

    Thanks for your time,
    Titanic

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    We used moneymanagement.org to take the course online; fairly painless (but also pointless, like you said). Good luck!

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      #3
      Originally posted by titanic View Post
      Sorry if this has been asked before, but can any one recommend a pre-bankruptcy counseling service for the certificate.We are almost done with the paperwork needed to file 13, except for the certificate......
      Are you trying to file Ch 13 on your own without a lawyer? (Please tell me you aren't!)

      To be honest, I would like the easiest, quickest, pay over the internet, "we'll send you your certificate by e-mail" service.
      We used Hummingbird Credit Counseling and Education, Inc - http://www.hummingbirdcreditcounseling.org/ . Costs $49, easy, quick, and painless.

      I don't mean to trivialize the seriousness of a bankruptcy, but these prefiling sessions seem like closing the gate after the beast escaped. .
      We all agree with you. Write your congresspersons to complain. They mandated this waste of time and money before you can file.

      Seems that a post-filing lecture would be more in order.
      Hate to tell you this, but there's also a different after-filing but before-closing education class you are required to take as well before your case can be closed. This course actually has some value, especially for folks that file Ch 7 and quickly head right back out into the cold, cruel financial world.
      I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

      06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
      06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
      07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
      10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
      01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
      09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
      06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
      08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

      10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
      Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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        #4
        'Are you trying to file Ch 13 on your own without a lawyer? (Please tell me you aren't!) '


        No, I'm not. I can barely wade through the dregs of my credit report without wanting to shave my head and climb the nearest belltower.......
        Thanks for the info....

        Titanic

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          #5
          I also used moneymanagement.org. It was a TOTAL waste of time. All common sense. Gee, save money, dont buy stuff like DVDs, dont eat out much, etc. They will email or fax your certificate immediately. It is who our lawyer uses. Its $50 pre and $50 post. I could have used that $50 for much better things, like opening a SAVINGS account.
          WAM
          ch7 8/07 CLOSED: 11/07 Rebuilding and saving.
          WAMU unsecured $2,000 Capital One unsecured $500
          PAID OFF MONTHLY!!!

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            #6
            For pre bk counseling I used CCCS out of Atlanta. Then there was some confusion from the paralegal she had me do it through hummingbird. Then the lawyer determined that in NC they did accept CCCS...which I could have told them .

            For post filing FM I used hummingbird.

            I liked the hummingbird one better on the pre even though I didn't get to use it.
            May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
            July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
            September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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