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    I have security cameras at my house. One morning I came outside and found that my gate was open. I never leave my gate open. When I played back the video, a truck from a recovery company entered the property during the night. The car that they are looking for isn't here. This is where it gets interesting. The repo man put a magnetic box that says "GPS Vision / BOLT" under my other car. It is not financed. I was pissed. I acted without really thinking it out well.

    The tracker? I stuck it under the bumper of an RV with Colorado plates in a gas station. Here's where my not thinking it out may not be good. The recovery company is calling me. Friday, they left several messages insisting that I return their equipment or they will report it stolen to law enforcement. Obviously, they have figured out that the box is not on the car any longer. Yes, I am pretty sure that they have no criminal case there but do you think they'll sue me to get the box's value? I would hate for the lawsuit to get filed after I file my bankruptcy.

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    Funny. I would reply to them with "what equipment are you talking about?" When they tell you what it is ask them "if it's a gps tracker why can't they locate it."

    I don't see how you have any liability with regards to a device they placed on your vehicle without your knowledge or consent. I would tell them to report it to the police and go pound sand. That's not to say they can't file suit, but I don't see how they establish that you did anything with it unless you admit to it. Who's to say you didn't hit a pothole and knock it off?
    Case Closed > 2/08/2010

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    • #3
      It got more interesting this morning. When I got my office, one of the first calls I took this morning was from the owner of the recovery company. Apparently, he used the information from the finance company to locate me. I told him that I did not have anything to say to him and requested that he no longer call me at work. Then hung up. About 9:30, he showed up at the receptionist, asking to speak with me. The quickest way to get rid of him seemed to be to go talk to him. When I got to reception, I took him outside the front doors. He certainly was indeed with the company because he was in one of their marked repo rigs and he is also the guy on my cameras from the other night. Maybe it isn't a big company.

      He told me that someone from his company put a tracking device on my car by mistake. Right, I wasn't buying that one. He went on to say that they cost about $500 each. I'm not sure if that was true or not but it doesn't matter because I do not have it. I was very careful not to admit knowing anything about anything. I told him that I had no interest in talking to him about anything. He needed to leave the property and never contact me again. I told him that both my home and work are private property and have cameras. If he returned, I'd get a temporary protective order.

      When he got in his truck, he told me that the finance company would find my car, and that I was in trouble for giving fake references on the application when I bought the car. I politely asked him to leave and he did. This time he did not threaten to have me arrested if I didn't return the tracker device and he didn't threaten to sue me. But I'm betting that he's got a vengeance to try and find that car. My case gets filed later this week. I'm meeting with my attorney and will talk to him about this. However, I doubt he will say much about it.

      On the references, they weren't fake when I gave them but five years is a long time. One is dead, two moved away, and I think the other two just cut landlines but I don't know for sure. What it tells me is that he was calling all my references trying to get an idea where to reach me. This seems to be a very unprofessional company.
      Last edited by Insolvent; 06-18-2018, 09:57 AM.

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      • #4
        Sounds like he was trying to fix his mistake by strong arming you. I guess he was thinking if he put the tracker on one of your vehicles, he could check the locations you go to and maybe find the other vehicle at one of those places. I don't think the GPS unit is worth $500 but in any case good for you on calling his bluff.

        Are you looking to do a redemption and include the vehicle in your 13? If you've had the vehicle for 5 years I think it highly unlikely that the finance company will object to the discharge of the debt based on fraud. Those proceedings cost money and it doesn't appear that they have a strong case, but if it's a luxury vehicle with a large balance outstanding, they may object if you try to cram down the balance.
        Case Closed > 2/08/2010

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        • #5
          His plan would have worked, IF he had closed that gate. My gate is something that I'm pretty much OCD about, it is never left open. Not locked, just closed. The gate being open is what caused me to check the cameras. KBB and the amount owed are pretty close. The plan is to keep the vehicle. I am going to be on a 100% plan, so they are going to get paid. Just over five years instead of the 15 months remaining. I haven't made a payment in about six months.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BobMango View Post
            Funny. I would reply to them with "what equipment are you talking about?"...Who's to say you didn't hit a pothole and knock it off?
            Exactly. How on Earth are you liable for something which was placed in or on your vehicle without your knowledge or consent? I would tell them to pound sand. The recovery company cannot report as stolen something which THEY placed upon your property, nor can they report the vehicle itself as stolen--only the lender could do that.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bcohen View Post

              Exactly. How on Earth are you liable for something which was placed in or on your vehicle without your knowledge or consent? I would tell them to pound sand. The recovery company cannot report as stolen something which THEY placed upon your property, nor can they report the vehicle itself as stolen--only the lender could do that.
              I agree, I haven't really been too worried about the criminal aspect of sending their tracking device off on a long distance journey but more the civil side of it. Magistrate Court is a crap shoot. I have envisioned a dozen ways it could go badly. Something like the judge asking me directly if I tampered with the device or disposed of it. I see my attorney on Thursday, I'll feel better then. After the finance company gets served, I can bring my daily driver back home, park it right in the driveway.

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              • #8
                My bankruptcy attorney laughed when I played the voicemail left by the repo company. He let me know that I am not going to be facing any charges nor will they bother to sue me. After all, I'm insolvent. That tracker is gone. The skeleton filing is happened today and his staff have already contacted the lien holder on the vehicle. I'm still going to make sure that it is kept out of sight until I know they have been served. If the repo man contacts me again, my attorney says to let him know that I've retained an attorney in the matter, and that he will have to contact him for any further communications. Thirty years of doing filings and he had not heard a voicemail like that one. I feel better.

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                • #9
                  I managed to make it past my filing date without the repo guy finding the car that he was seeking. Who knows where the tracking device is now. Maybe he can track it. He's never contacted me again, I've put him in my rearview mirror.

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                  • #10
                    Best story ever I love it when these folks that go far beyond "just doing their jobs" get screwed. If they repo man is following the law, it is what it is they have to feed their families. When they are willing to break the law and do the shady crap that happened to you, I am super happy when it cost them. I wish the device they last had cost 10K!

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