What do you guys think? War in Georgia the start of WW3?

[banca rotta]

This could be the start of WWIII, I do agree with that.

The last two WW started under similar circumstances. A large powerful enemy invading a smaller weaker one. The danger is if everyone sits and does nothing like they did when Hitler invaded Austria.

The good news is this (war with us) won't happen. Between Amerika (just kidding, god forbid!!!) America in Iraq and the Western Europeans always apeasing the enemy we are finished with war for a while. We won't get involved and the unfortunate ones there will all die just like WW2 when the free world stuck their heads in the sand hoping Hitler would go away.

The madam speaker is signing her books at Barnes & Nobile. She has no time for this war right now. Maybe next time.

[Bandit]

I no longer pay attention to the TV news since they always lie.

I know. It is like we live in a world of lies, swimming in lie after lie after lie.....

The one I am watching is China. If those troops go onto anyones soil...they invaded wont be getting it back. Between the U.S. & China they will keep everyone else in their little places.

The good news is this (war with us) won't happen. Between Amerika (just kidding, god forbid!!!)

It happened once but today each state would simply bow to the force ...the governers would give up too much money under the table if they fight.

[JRScott]

Western Europe gets the majority of it's oil and natural gas from Russia and will NOT intervene in this conflict over fears of Russia cutting off supply..

That actually is the real danger. If they do nothing Putin will take Georgia. He'll then move against the Baltic States I believe. His goal is the rebuild the Russian Empire (USSR). He'll slowly move to take back all former soviet republics.

If Europe acts though even under the danger of losing their oil and natural gas, then I do believe that they can avert a WWIII scenario, it will mean economic hard times for Europe though, but sometimes you have to take the harder road.

If Russia was to embargo Europe, then it could open the pathway for coal to oil conversions and additional drilling of natural gas and oil here in the United States (as well as Canada). We could not supply enough though to make up for a total Russian embargo, but I believe it would also help governments and people to develop alternative energy at a faster pace.

[JRScott]

This has the potential to escalate into a bigger conflict.. For those that thought that Russia has changed its ways- think again. What can the US do? - plead to the UN Security council for sanctions- Russia and China have veto power to squash any action by the UN.. The US is going to realize that our list of allies keeps getting smaller every day...

Perhaps at last this will reveal how useless the United Nations really is. It is the most corrupt governmental body on the planet, more corrupt than Russia's or ours. It has not really accomplished its ideals in the last half of its life, and its debatable if it was effective during the first half either.

Like the League of Nations before it, it is likely this latest conflict could finally see the end of the United Nations which to me is a good thing.

[BigJohn]

The Georgia conflict gives GWB room to go to Iran. Both conflicts are over oil, or should I say world domination.

[chloe0724]

Big John,

I hope you're wrong. We are already so far over our heads with Iraq, I can't imagine invading another country. We would have to reinstate the draft. As far as our economy goes, the current Iraq war is killing us, another conflict would bankrupt us.

[Bandit]

The Georgia conflict gives GWB room to go to Iran. Both conflicts are over oil, or should I say world domination.

Oh yah. GWMush has made several threats in that direction & would like to do it before he leaves office. They all want to rule the globe & their own country does not matter to the chiefs if it suffers.

[Scott50]

Big John,

I hope you're wrong. We are already so far over our heads with Iraq, I can't imagine invading another country. We would have to reinstate the draft. As far as our economy goes, the current Iraq war is killing us, another conflict would bankrupt us.

our country is ALREADY bankrupt..

[angie1313]

The Georgia conflict gives GWB room to go to Iran. Both conflicts are over oil, or should I say world domination.

They said it doesn't give Russia much room to put up a stink about what we do to Iran, either with military or sanctions.

[Bandit]

They said it doesn't give Russia much room to put up a stink about what we do to Iran, either with military or sanctions.

Exactly. And the same goes for Bush telling Russia not to have a war. Like he is some saint.

[BankruptPinoy]

Russia 'ends Georgia operation'

Russia 'ends Georgia operation'

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has ordered an end to military operations against Georgia, the Kremlin says.

He told officials he had decided to end the campaign after restoring security for Russian citizens and peacekeepers in South Ossetia.

Mr Medvedev's announcement followed fresh reports of Russian warplanes bombing the Georgian town of Gori.

The conflict began last Thursday, when Russia responded to Georgian military action in South Ossetia.

But Russia has also bombed areas outside the breakaway region - including Gori, which is less than 80km (50 miles) from the Georgian capital Tbilisi.

Shortly before Russia's announcement that it was ending military operations, witnesses told the BBC that several people had been killed when a bomb hit a hospital in the town.

A reporter for Reuters news agency said several bombs exploded in front of his vehicle, while a Reuters photographer spoke of seeing dead and injured people lying in the streets.

Officials in the Netherlands have confirmed that a Dutch TV cameraman was among those killed in Gori and another journalist was wounded.

The BBC's Gabriel Gatehouse, near Gori, reported seeing sporadic artillery fire around the town right up until shortly before the Russian announcement.

But our correspondent later said military action in the area appeared to have stopped.

After Mr Medvedev's statement, tens of thousands of Georgians gathered in Tbilisi's main square to hear President Mikhail Saakashvili speak.

The president told the crowd that Russia was continuing its "ruthless, heartless destruction" of Georgian citizens - although the Kremlin denied his claims.

In other developments:

• French President Nicolas Sarkozy held a joint news conference with President Medvedev in Moscow. Mr Sarkozy, in his current role as EU president, is trying to negotiate a permanent ceasefire.

• Nato said Russia's withdrawal announcement was "not enough" and that it deplored the "disproportionate" force used by Moscow.

• President Saakashvili said Georgia would leave the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) - a group which includes most of the former Soviet republics.

• He also announced that Russian peacekeepers in Georgia's other breakaway region, Abkhazia, will now be regarded as an occupying army - ending an agreement in place since 1994.

• Separatist rebels continued to fight against Georgian troops in the Kodori Gorge region of Abkhazia - the only area of Abkhazia still under Georgian military control.

• British oil firm BP closed a key pipeline that runs through Georgia.

'Safety restored'

According to a Kremlin statement, Mr Medvedev told his defence minister and chief of staff that "the goal has been attained".

"I've decided to finish the operation to force the Georgian authorities to peace. The safety of our peacekeeping forces and civilian population has been restored," he said.

"The aggressor has been punished, having sustained considerable losses. Its armed forces have been disorganised."

The BBC's James Rodgers, in Moscow, says there is no sign yet that Russia is willing to engage in talks with the government in Tbilisi.

Russia's Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, has insisted that Georgia must sign a legally binding document on the non-use of force.

And Mr Medvedev warned that Russia would not tolerate any further Georgian military activity in South Ossetia, saying: "Should centres of resistance or other aggressive attempts arise, you must take the decision to destroy them."

Georgia also remained sceptical, the country's prime minister telling Reuters that troops would remain "mobilised... ready for anything" until a binding agreement was signed between the two countries.

Foreign influence

The Russian move followed strong comments from US President George W Bush, in which he spoke directly of concerns that Russia was planning to topple Georgia's pro-Western president.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev announces the end of military operations

"Russia has invaded a sovereign neighbouring state and threatens a democratic government elected by its people," he said.

"Such an action is unacceptable in the 21st Century."

The BBC's diplomatic correspondent Bridget Kendall says Mr Medvedev's announcement must be seen in the light of the US president's words.

"Russia has invaded a sovereign neighbouring state and threatens a democratic government elected by its people"-US President George W Bush

President Bush's language was unusually blunt, she says, and if Russia cares about its relations with the US and Europe, it might have been given pause for thought.

The five-day-old conflict began late on 7 August when Georgian forces bombarded South Ossetia, where a majority of people hold Russian passports.

Russia quickly became involved, bombing targets throughout Georgia and sending troops in to recapture South Ossetia.

Some 100,000 people are estimated to have been displaced by the conflict.

Page last updated at 14:58 GMT, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 15:58 UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7555858.stm

NATO's secretary general says Russia's announcement that it was halting military action in Georgia is "an important first step," but not enough.

Jaap de Hoop Scheffer told reporters at the NATO alliance headquarters that Russian and Georgian forces need to go back to positions they held Aug. 6, the day before hostilities broke out.

After chairing a special NATO meeting, he called Georgia "a friend... and a highly respected partner of NATO" that remains a candidate for NATO membership.

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NATO chief: Russian cease-fire not enough

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/08/12/europe/EU-NATO-Georgia-Russia.php

[AngelinaCatHub]

So far as we can see here in Florida, I 95 and I75 are packed going North with pick up trucks, shot guns, hunting dogs, four wheelers, and the Confederate flag. The rednecks are going to clean the Russians’ out of Georgia. Everything is under control.

[AngelinaCatHub]

Perhaps at last this will reveal how useless the United Nations really is. It is the most corrupt governmental body on the planet, more corrupt than Russia's or ours. It has not really accomplished its ideals in the last half of its life, and its debatable if it was effective during the first half either.

Like the League of Nations before it, it is likely this latest conflict could finally see the end of the United Nations which to me is a good thing.

I wish we could kick the UN out of here. It is a financial drain and crooked as a stick. The money we pay to them could be used much more sensibly than the crooks numbered bank accounts. 'Hub

[BankruptPinoy]

New assault in Georgia despite Russian vow
Troops seen moving to gorge in west; death toll said to reach 2,000

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26116598/

excerpt

Despite a pledge by Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that military action had been halted, Russian troops launched a new offensive Tuesday in western Georgia.

[BankruptPinoy]

lol Hub.

The rednecks are going to clean the Russians’ out of Georgia.