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    #46
    Since your feelings of despair are overwhelming you, DM, please promise me that you will call the suicide hot line in your area. You can find the number here - http://suicidehotlines.com/

    No life is worth so little that it's ok to kill yourself over debt. Don't do it!

    Do your best to take a step back and don't let your emotions overwhelm you for a moment. Start thinking about your situation in cold, hard, emotionless ways. If a friend came to you with all the situations you are buckling under, what would you tell them to do?

    The problem with forums is that we have only your words to read. We can't possibly know all the details of your situation, can't see your facial expressions, can't hear the tone of your voice. Cues are only written words here - it leads to misunderstandings sometimes.

    Have you made appointments with 3-4 bk lawyers in your area yet? Most give free or low-cost initial consultations. Find out if filing bankrupcy can help your situation or not. That's the first step.

    Next is to not make assumptions. It's so easy when we are under the intense grip of strong emotions to think we understand possibilities when we actually don't. You won't know what's possible until you actually try it.

    Tie a knot and hang on through today. You've tried the obvious things to get out of your situation - no luck. Now's the time to start thinking creatively about your situation.

    Realize that you ARE NOT going to be able to maintain the status quo. You have to be willing to make big sacrifices to move things forward in your situation. You either have to make more money or reduce expenses. There's just no other way. To keep hoping you can keep things the same by keeping belongings that are truly optional is wasting precious energy.

    Take the first step. Think about your life without all the trappings you have now. Is it the life you want? Of course not. But you may have to give most of it up to start over.

    Taking the first steps to making that happen are hard, very hard. But YOU are what matters, not your things. Things can be repurchased later. YOU cannot be replaced.
    I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

    06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
    06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
    07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
    10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
    01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
    09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
    06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
    08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

    10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
    Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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      #47
      What's the point of not dieing? I'll get back on my feet again and then this will all happen again during the next recession. You can't win. The system is designed for us to fail. A friend of mine who filed bankruptcy in 2000 is ready to file bankruptcy once more.

      Since Bigboy said he wants to give me a gun to end it, I need to get it from him. I'm getting tired of losing everything I worked for only to be left homeless and car-less. I can't keep a job anywhere I go. I always end up getting laid off by the time I start to clean up my credit and put money away. This is historically proven to be a never ending cycle.

      I would honestly be better off dead. Bigboy will confirm this. If anyone were to rob me in the street with a gun, I would beg them to point it to my head and pull the trigger.

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        #48
        Originally posted by debtmonster View Post
        What's the point of not dieing? I'll get back on my feet again and then this will all happen again during the next recession. You can't win. The system is designed for us to fail. A friend of mine who filed bankruptcy in 2000 is ready to file bankruptcy once more.

        Since Bigboy said he wants to give me a gun to end it, I need to get it from him. I'm getting tired of losing everything I worked for only to be left homeless and car-less. I can't keep a job anywhere I go. I always end up getting laid off by the time I start to clean up my credit and put money away. This is historically proven to be a never ending cycle.

        I would honestly be better off dead. Bigboy will confirm this. If anyone were to rob me in the street with a gun, I would beg them to point it to my head and pull the trigger.

        I have been here many many MANY times over the last 9 months & only this forum & my closest friends know I have had suicidal thoughts. Probably the only reason I did not try it is because I was afraid of doing it wrong & I would end up in more pain.

        Would I be better off dead? I don't know. At some point I will be dead & obviously I will be better off then-

        I have become so agnostic about everything that it seems like I don't have the answer to anything & quite frankly that is just the way life is. The only guarantee for sure is that we are going to die & somehow I found this little sliver of peace ACCEPTING THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES IN LIFE... so dont ask me questions that require an absolute yes or no

        What is the point of not dieing? Because we have been pushed out of our safety zone?
        What is the point of not living? Because we have no comfort zone?

        I don't know!...but it makes for a good discussion when you need a shoulder to cry on and ears to hear my screams for how much the pain is killing me

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          #49
          DM,
          THis thread was exhausting to say the least. Why do you need THREE cars for TWO people in the first place. Tell your "WIFE" that her car is going tomorrow!!! How could you even marry such an idiot???!! Come on, just reading your posts makes me upset and I'm not even you!
          If my wife EVER EVER EVER told me no to a situation like that, I'd leave her sorry ass and do my own thing. If the car is in YOUR name, you do what you have to and if it's in hers, let HER deal with the payment etc...
          You need to do what's best for YOUR SITUATION and if she doesn't want to be your partner in this, you need to really think about your next move, because you seriously need help...
          Good luck to you, my man.
          Filed: October 1, 2007 341: December 10, 2007
          CONFIRMED: December 10, 2007
          Payment: $825 / Mo. for 5 Years-29 MONTHS OF Pmts Down 23 to go!

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            #50
            I wish you luck even though I do believe you are a troll. If you are not (and the percentage of my doubt is slim) then you need to stop paying your credit cards and use that money to seek psychiatric help immediately.

            Good luck whatever you are,

            EP
            California Bankruptcy Central

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              #51
              Originally posted by debtmonster View Post
              We only got to look at it. Man, it will SUCK going back to a used car. I have no way to rebuild transmissions, change CV joints and all that crap. That's why I got new cars in the first place. I got tired of being broken down on the side of the road and it takes way too many years to save up $17,000 to $25,000 for a new car. The only good thing is that by 2010, stability control is supposed to be standard on a lot of cars. So if I lose the cars I have, I won't mind the wait.
              I'm sorry, your last two sentences just do not make any sense to me. You are worried about cars having stability control in 2010 and you are moaning about your insolvency now? Debtmonster, either you are making stuff up to type in here for pity/attention or you are so emotionally overwrought with all that is going on you just cannot make sensible decisions. If you have so much time on your hands, you should be spending it trying to look at options to get your and your wife out of this mess and not worry about what vehicles come equipped with in 2010.
              _________________________________________
              Filed 5 Year Chapter 13: April 2002
              Early Buy-Out: April 2006
              Discharge: August 2006

              "A credit card is a snake in your pocket"

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                #52
                I posted previously before reading subsequent responses/postings. Debtmonster, none of us truly know your situation because it is so tangled with things that do not make sense and just so messed up you do not even know where you stand financially. Your wife is an enabler of the entire situation and is in denial. If all you state is true, and from what I see being posted on here, there is free help that can help you with your emotional issues which will be a start to help resolve all your financial issues. Your emotional issues over the years may be the main cause of all your debt and mishandlings and bad judgments. You can call any local hospital for help if you feel suicidal and they will give you a number to call or send someone to you immediately. We all have been through the emotions of debt issues and if one already has emotional issues, it can send someone over the edge.

                I have seen postings like yours also on other forums where the person just makes up lots of things for attention. I am not saying you are a troll, but some of the things you are posting come close. Trolls invade forums for attention and to create issues among posters causing long threads such as this. If you are not a troll, you have received so much marvelous advice from posters on here but it is up to you to act on it. None of us make house visits or can fly to Florida to hold your hand while you accomplish things.

                Best of luck to you...
                _________________________________________
                Filed 5 Year Chapter 13: April 2002
                Early Buy-Out: April 2006
                Discharge: August 2006

                "A credit card is a snake in your pocket"

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                  #53
                  Somebody never learn. Talk to a rock!

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                    #54
                    I am locking this thread as it has become to unwieldy and has served its purpose.

                    DM, and other, please feel free to post other questions, etc.

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