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[tobee43]

I see you listen to Rush Limbaugh. Figures. No wonder you are so full of misinformation. The ribs only contained 600 calories, btw, (Rush lied as usual) and the meal included kale, one of those healthy veggies you probably hate. It was a well balanced meal actually. Funny that fatso Limbaugh makes fun of other's eating habits, and even sadder that people believe and repeat the sh*t he spews daily.



Read the truth - why Michelle Obama publicized that restaurant. As usual the truth is totally the opposite of what Rush tells his gullible audience:

http://www.vaildaily.com/article/201...NEWS/110229979

ok Whatmoney...hope your sitting down...

i not ONLY agree, but your actually correct....

additionally, people need understand nutrition.....a braised piece of meat also braises out all the fat ....a good example is a chuck pot roast one would likely think is fatty and high in calories..but after one has stewed with with maybe some carrots and white sweet potato...well is no more than 400 calories per full serving...

how do i know this...i am a bit of a freak about watching what we eat...like every thing that goes into my mouth....(other than perhaps my words?) lol!!

now...on the really serious side of this issue.....

i use to smoke 3 packs of cigarettes a day...if i can quit anyone can....and i standing firm on that...tax cigarettes so high that no can afford them.....OH!! didn't they do that already...and also TAX getting those fake nails done...

i also lost over 118 pounds and went from a size 30 to a size 8..........had nothing to do with what i ate...i actually eat more now (i did have a serious medical problem which caused rapid weight gain...like over 80 pounds in year...another story!) and i know everyone thought i lived on potato chips and candy....never!!!...but i do feel that extra taxes on junk foods may promote healthier eating...i was raised with excellent eating habits...so were my kids, actually to the point, and this is somewhat out there...but my son, took issue with his wife prior to marrying her ...telling her she must change her eating or it's not going to work...of course to us that's way far to extreme....so i may have overdone it a bit?? LOL!! poor girl...when he was in grad school he was also rugby coach and his poor wife (she wasn't at the time)...had to work out and eat right or she was off HIS team.

[lovemybugs10]

I would hunt someone down and stab them with a pitchfork if they tried to take away my pasta and bread. and scones. lol.

[lovemybugs10]

I've never been on a diet and never read a diet book, so I have no clue what he did. He is the no carb guy?

[shark66]

I think that information is what happens to be decreasing smoking rates. There aren't many people that can claim to know it wont kill you.

Information is key in nutrition as well. How many "healthy" meals are prepackaged out there that aren't healthy? How many "low fat" yogurts are actually worse for you than the real stuff?

Truth in advertising. When we have that, then I will believe that people actually know what they are eating. It seems easy (heck, my 6 year old knows that gelatin is gross) but when a package says artificial and natural flavors... we really don't know what that means. Or when HFCS is under a different name.

We put so much junk in our bodies, even healthy type people. That is causing the increase in obesity, (and laziness, you want to tax that? I'd be poor) It isn't just McDonalds or cokes. It's the mentality that diet coke is better for you than coke when it really isn't. Taxing people is pointless. Information is key.

And that's exactly why everyone and their seventh cousin went after late Dr. Atkins the way they did, with torches and pitchforks...because he proved the establishment science to be a lie, along with a couple of other things along the way...love him or hate him, he did hit quite a few nails on the head...

[WhatMoney]

You brought it up, I had nothing to prove. What a silly thing to do, answer a question, with a question, real cutie pie.

Now, go order some 1600 calorie ribs with what's her face.

I see you listen to Rush Limbaugh. Figures. No wonder you are so full of misinformation. The ribs only contained 600 calories, btw, (Rush lied as usual) and the meal included kale, one of those healthy veggies you probably hate. It was a well balanced meal actually. Funny that fatso Limbaugh makes fun of other's eating habits, and even sadder that people believe and repeat the sh*t he spews daily.

Michelle Obama's Vail meal becomes talk-show topic after Rush Limbaugh attacks the First Lady for ordering ribs.

(Vail Daily) The first lady, in Vail with her daughters and some friends for the Presidents Day weekend, dined at Restaurant Kelly Liken in Vail Village Saturday night, enjoying a pickled pumpkin salad with arugula and a braised ancho-chile short rib with hominy wild mushrooms and sauteed kale.

A braised short rib is a relatively lean cut of beef, braised with most of the fat cooked off. The 5-ounce serving runs about 600 calories, Liken said - a far cry from the 1,500 calories and 141 grams of fat it's accused of.

"A proper 5-ounce portion of protein is what nutritionists say we should have," said Kelly Liken, who launched the highly successful restaurant.

Let's not forget that the 5-ounce rib is served with local kale, nurtured and grown by students at Eagle's Brush Creek Elementary School.

"Kale is one of nature's super foods," Liken said. "There are more nutrients in the 3 ounces of kale we serve than you'll get in a massive green salad."

A skier will burn off about 6,000 calories during the course of a day.

"It's a hearty meal for sure, a great meal after a day of skiing, well-balanced and nutritious," Liken said

Read the truth - why Michelle Obama publicized that restaurant. As usual the truth is totally the opposite of what Rush tells his gullible audience:

http://www.vaildaily.com/article/201...NEWS/110229979

[lovemybugs10]

I think that information is what happens to be decreasing smoking rates. There aren't many people that can claim to know it wont kill you.

Information is key in nutrition as well. How many "healthy" meals are prepackaged out there that aren't healthy? How many "low fat" yogurts are actually worse for you than the real stuff?

Truth in advertising. When we have that, then I will believe that people actually know what they are eating. It seems easy (heck, my 6 year old knows that gelatin is gross) but when a package says artificial and natural flavors... we really don't know what that means. Or when HFCS is under a different name.

We put so much junk in our bodies, even healthy type people. That is causing the increase in obesity, (and laziness, you want to tax that? I'd be poor) It isn't just McDonalds or cokes. It's the mentality that diet coke is better for you than coke when it really isn't. Taxing people is pointless. Information is key.

[shark66]

ditto...and i have ALWAYS loved sharks comments..

Thanks, tobee...the feeling is mutual...

On another note, fellow BKF users, let's try and not get too personal, this is an interesting thread but is likely to get locked if it stays on its current path...

Good luck to us all.

[tobee43]

Shark, I'm really starting to like you.

Very little tax on something I choose to indulge in every now and then is too much. It isn't up to you or to me to police someone and their eating habits. It isn't up to you or the government to decide what is healthy. No one would like what my idea of healthy is. That isn't my job, it isn't yours and it isn't the governments.

Edit: More government gets me going. Every where I turn I've got big brother barging into my house. I'm tired of it, and I'm tired of paying higher taxes in the name of "safety" and of course "to protect the children" blah blah blah. I don't need the government to tell me how to eat, how to educate my children or to pay even more taxes on stuff they have no business being involved in.

ditto...and i have ALWAYS loved sharks comments..

[tobee43]

California does NOT charge tax on food bought at a grocery store.
I too agree that we should tax junk food, fast food, alcohol and tobacco to help offset the increased medical costs we will all end up paying for people who over indulge in those life styles.

oh yes, i know....i went into molly's a few months ago and i'm buying some food for my parents house...and i am outraged at the prices themselves on the food...not even considering whether or not the bread was taxed.......i SO wanted to put that bread back...since i know where we live that same brand is no more than 2.50....why in the world is california paying so much for that loaf of bread...

now...food costs are going up all over...here in florida we were in price shock....nj has MUCH cheaper food.......plus......it's so hard to get health foods here...all the cuts are meat are fatty...fish i have to go 45 minutes for fresh fish...what??? isn't there ocean all around us?? LOL!!

we can't even eat out locally since the places use so much fat...

i thought was is FAT BACK??? what can that me.........

well it's fried pork or chicken's back shaved with a peeler and deep fried in only the LORD knows....it's cheap tho!! and of course it is ....eat it and it assures you die in a week of a blocked heart viens.....LOL!!!! really it's terrible.

[tobee43]

The thing about a hundred years ago is that people didn't live so long either. THAT makes a big difference in health care costs, nursing home costs, etc. And people shared and took care of each other. In my last job, it was dog eat dog. Awful environment. Even with the economy, I was glad to be laid off from there. Things were way different 100 years ago.

so correct...and woman even had size 17 inch waists!! so we no the overweight problem didn't have anything to do with obestity...it was medical and the hard way of life in those days that killed...of course you are always so logical!

[tobee43]

I love both. love it. eating it too. Dang thing about that is I don't love to exercise.

me either....i use to love to run..(up until about 3 years ago i ran 6 miles day...) even tho i'm old....but i love lifting weights etc. just haven't had the time..

[espo1357]

I guess the gov't shouldn't tell you that your house walls have been painted with lead paint that does wonders to ones health. Its is their business when your actions drive up their costs and for everyone else to.

Move to China, that is probably a good fit for you.

the governement has never done anything productive. they don't produce anything, but burdens on taxpayers.

[espo1357]

And where is your evidence?

You brought it up, I had nothing to prove. What a silly thing to do, answer a question, with a question, real cutie pie.

Now, go order some 1600 calorie ribs with what's her face.

[jacko]

And where is your evidence?

The obesity tax? WTF are you talking about?

Where do you get your stats?

I mean, grow up. SS is ****. I have paid into it for 20 years, and I am not counting on it. I could care less if

I get it, because I like to work, and have more street smarts that most people.

Not trying to be rude, but you throw percentages around with no source, nothing. Defray the costs of healthcare and over time instill behavior modification? Come on dude, we live in America, let people do what they want and stop with this crap.

[jacko]

I guess the gov't shouldn't tell you that your house walls have been painted with lead paint that does wonders to ones health. Its is their business when your actions drive up their costs and for everyone else to.

Shark, I'm really starting to like you.

Very little tax on something I choose to indulge in every now and then is too much. It isn't up to you or to me to police someone and their eating habits. It isn't up to you or the government to decide what is healthy. No one would like what my idea of healthy is. That isn't my job, it isn't yours and it isn't the governments.

Edit: More government gets me going. Every where I turn I've got big brother barging into my house. I'm tired of it, and I'm tired of paying higher taxes in the name of "safety" and of course "to protect the children" blah blah blah. I don't need the government to tell me how to eat, how to educate my children or to pay even more taxes on stuff they have no business being involved in.