I am not a devotee to either party and I suppose it would shock you to know that while I've voted Rep much of the time... I did vote for Clinton's first go-round so...
but.. yes...it would've happened without Obama, or Big Bird, Elmo, the dog down the street, etc etc etc. Bin Laden has been hunted since the early 90's - well before Bush took office, well before Obama took office. I didnt bring in Bush or Obama and gave credit to neither... I think perhaps people need to read what I wrote again and then digest it once more. I said give credit where credit is due... to our military & gov't agencies; I also said that the search for Bin Laden began way before Obama became president as well as before Jr. became president. While any POTUS will get praise or fall-out for whatever happens while they're in office - they are not the ones that "do the deed" so to speak. They are a figure head and that is all... in the scheme of things in reality. I liken it to those that think "the people elect the president".... uh no... its not by popular vote that any president wins..its by electoral college; so while someone wins the office of POTUS by electoral vote, that doesnt mean they won by popular vote - which is the way it was many moons ago before "parties" came into play, as I'm sure you know. So while POTUS gives an order - it is not that order that directed the initiative initially and the POTUS is, in most instances - told/directed by others that "such and such" is about to happen and oh btw..we need a green light from you to carry out our mission that began (insert timeframe here). What I commented on was that people are saying this wouldn't of happened unless Obama was in office.... that not true....and if we all resorted to that way of thinking and, lets say Bin Laden wasn't killed during Obama's presidency but the next candidates...then they'd get the credit vs. Obama...thats what ya'll are saying, and its the furthest thing from the truth. Its our military, its leaders, and agencies that deserve the credit for missions set forth, not the POTUS.
but.. yes...it would've happened without Obama, or Big Bird, Elmo, the dog down the street, etc etc etc. Bin Laden has been hunted since the early 90's - well before Bush took office, well before Obama took office. I didnt bring in Bush or Obama and gave credit to neither... I think perhaps people need to read what I wrote again and then digest it once more. I said give credit where credit is due... to our military & gov't agencies; I also said that the search for Bin Laden began way before Obama became president as well as before Jr. became president. While any POTUS will get praise or fall-out for whatever happens while they're in office - they are not the ones that "do the deed" so to speak. They are a figure head and that is all... in the scheme of things in reality. I liken it to those that think "the people elect the president".... uh no... its not by popular vote that any president wins..its by electoral college; so while someone wins the office of POTUS by electoral vote, that doesnt mean they won by popular vote - which is the way it was many moons ago before "parties" came into play, as I'm sure you know. So while POTUS gives an order - it is not that order that directed the initiative initially and the POTUS is, in most instances - told/directed by others that "such and such" is about to happen and oh btw..we need a green light from you to carry out our mission that began (insert timeframe here). What I commented on was that people are saying this wouldn't of happened unless Obama was in office.... that not true....and if we all resorted to that way of thinking and, lets say Bin Laden wasn't killed during Obama's presidency but the next candidates...then they'd get the credit vs. Obama...thats what ya'll are saying, and its the furthest thing from the truth. Its our military, its leaders, and agencies that deserve the credit for missions set forth, not the POTUS.
We (meaning the US military / agencies) have been looking for that rat bastard since before 9/11 - so...cant give the credit to Obama - give credit where credit is due: our military and gov't Agencies that have been non-stop for years, even prior to 9/11 as Bin Laden was responsible for MANY attacks (USS Cole, somalia, US embassies, etc etc..just to name a few). He's been on the FBI's top 10 for decades. We (meaning the US military / agencies) have been looking for that rat bastard since before 9/11 - so...cant give the credit to Obama - give credit where credit is due: our military and gov't Agencies that have been non-stop for years, even prior to 9/11 as Bin Laden was responsible for MANY attacks (USS Cole, somalia, US embassies, etc etc..just to name a few). He's been on the FBI's top 10 for decades.
We (meaning the US military / agencies) have been looking for that rat bastard since before 9/11 - so...cant give the credit to Obama - give credit where credit is due: our military and gov't Agencies that have been non-stop for years, even prior to 9/11 as Bin Laden was responsible for MANY attacks (USS Cole, somalia, US embassies, etc etc..just to name a few). He's been on the FBI's top 10 for decades.
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